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    Nice article. As a self employed IT consultant I spend a lot of time
    in offices, and a lot of time in front of a computer at home. My work
    day is spread out among the 24 hours depending upon when the problems
    occur and when I can access systems around other workers. (I am forced
    to do a lot of work at night, remotely, when everyone is off the
    network.)

    For the clients I work with, remote or telecommuting is
    a big issue . The big problem with remote workers in a large corporate
    environment is the bias against the workers when it comes to
    responsibility and promotion.

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  • coleman larson

    i use CAD to write CNC machine programs in aerospace manufacturing and while its not exactly the kind of work you are referring to i totally agree with your statement about the loss of motivation. i work a 10 hour shift i am highly productive when i arrive at work at 1:00 pm, but drop off by 3:00 or 4:00. at 6:00 i have a 2 hour break during which i practice martial arts at a local gym. the physical activity breaks up the monotony of the mental activity and i return feeling refreshed and am again highly productive for 2 or 3 hours. beyond that time my ability and motivation to problem solve just goes out the window and i am reduced to watching the clock until 1:00 am!

    with that said there is the issue of interacting with other businesses and other departments.  not every ones periods of increased productivity coincide and if there is no standard work day, how are we to get things done that involve more than just ourselves? 

    • Cristian

      Coleman, how do you interact when you need the help of a colleague who is temporarily out of office – because in a meeting, or on vacation, or traveling for business, or doing work off-site for a few hours. You simply get back to them later, or you set up a meeting when they are available, you call them up or email them to see whether the problem can be solved without face-to-face contact, or to find a time when they are available.  You would do the same if they are only working part-time in the office and part-time at home.

  • LV

    The folks advocating for not only office working, but “open” office working — with no offices, walls, etc. — as if it’s THE way forward, are doing an extreme disservice to the 51% of the population that are introverts (I’m talking true introversion here, not shyness, as extroverts can be shy also.)

    Believe it or not, some people work better in semi-solitude, without distractions and constant chatter (or worse, small talk and gossiping)  around them. I know this may be hard for extroverts to understand.

    From what I’ve read here, the introvert/extrovert personality variable hasn’t come up in this conversation, and I think it’s a BIG oversight because it could be THE key factor in how people prefer to work.

    My (rather uneducated) guess is that extroverts will prefer office work (most of the time) while introverts would prefer telecommuting (most of the time). It just comes down to what works great for one person doesn’t work great for another person — I think we all know this to be true.

    It’s very frustrating to see extroverts not recognizing this fact, pushing the “open” office landscape, as if we’re abnormal for not enjoying having no private/personal space in the office, or abnormal for preferring to work in a closed office or at home.

    • Cristian

      LV, I like your point but just wanted to mention – according to Myers-Briggs, only 25% of the people are introverts, and the rest extraverts. I’m an introvert myself, but I certainly wouldn’t like to think that 25% is an insignificant amount.

  • Miller1657

    Mote companies should adopt a growing concept called ROWE ( Results Only Work Environment). This concept allows employees to work from wherever and whenever as long as their work is getting done. My employer just rolled this policy out company wide and they piloted ROWE for 6 month and the results were very positive.
    I feel extremely fortunate to work for such a progressive company.

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  • Aksivad

    Oh the drudgery of  9 to 5!   I read this in total disbelief until the author noted the age, so it all fits together now.  I honestly find the views and beliefs a common affliction in the age group, which may be why he/she assumes more people are taking note.   If they are, it’s because people believe this drivel and the people that know better are retiring.

    Why would someone need coffee to stay awake until 5:30 in the afternoon?  I know, the author is out partying or playing video games until the wee hours and the “job” and the 9-5 hours are not conducive to his/her lifestyle .  Conversely, if one goes to bed early to commitments, are in their 20′s and are still tired at 5:30 pm, my apologies and go see a doctor. . . SOON. 

    Interesting how easily it is to stereotype.  Factory workers just make widgets and don’t need or perform critical thinking.  Wow, tell that to an Electrician, or Machinist.  Yes they work in factories.  I am a white collar professional, but I do know the critical thought needed to get the work completed.  Perhaps the author meant assembly line worker?  There is much evidence that type of repetitive work requires even more breaks or people get hurt. 

    This post attempting to pass as an article, but upon examination, it is good that a tree was not sacrificed for this garbage.  Unfortunately perhaps some coal  burned for power…  There are no references to completed studies or facts to support the authors “theories”.   He/she is correct that by writing it down, people believe it.

    Bet the author would need to research when the 12 hour standard day became a “grueling” 8 hr / 40 hr work week. Little further back in the early 1900′s, children worked 12hr. 6 days a week.  Did the author consider the competition and someone replacing them that doesn’t have an issue with how the rest of planet Earth works?

    Good luck to the author trying to shape the whole world to match his/her vision.  Why not, in the author’s alternate reality it revolves around him/her anyway?

    Likely twice the age of the author and apparently I work longer, harder and didn’t need a gov. bailout of any type.  But then I moved out of my parents house during college and wasn’t raised in the era of entitlements.

    • Cristian

      Aksivad,

      I am a 32 year-old white collar worker (biotech industry) and I have certainly had my share of partying when I was younger, but I find myself less interested in it these days. I’m still not married with kids, but it’s the age, as you say. However, I find that ever since I was 16 or so I was far more productive in the late mornings/afternoons, and ever since then found that the 9-11ish hours were completely useless to me. A lot of people are naturally more productive a good while after they’ve woken up (hormones, natural day/night cycle – I’m sure you’ve met them as well as I, and working in the field I can assure you there is nothing about us that needs medical attention). It’s simple biological variability and it’s just as insulting of you to say we all need to see a doctor as you’d say all blonde people should dye their hair because the majority have dark hair (or other types of discrimination).

      Rather, I think society should recognize that people are individuals, and treat them accordingly. That is, if it is to make the most out of its most precious resource, the human capital. 

      I’m sad to see that you refer back to how things were in the 1900′s. They still are so today in what we call the third world, or the worse-off parts of the developing world. I think very few people in the West would think we shouldn’t try to improve anything at home just because in some parts of Africa they live to be 50 at most, and in some parts of Asia they work 12 hours per day. Humanity has always looked forward and tried to improve its condition, and I think most of us understand that things were a lot worse in the past, but that’s not a reason to stop us from thinking what we can still improve now. 

      You’re right, what the author of this article is suggesting is mostly relevant to young and single people, not to those reaching middle age, with teenage children and house mortgages. I don’t think he’s suggesting giving up the usual 9-5 hours, nor do I think that will happen anytime soon. I think he understands that some people’s habits, preferences, or circumstances are better suited to that. He’s simply suggesting an alternative for those who prefer otherwise. If available, I would pick it, even though I’m a bit past his age group. The young workers, white- or blue-collar, constitute a significant part of the workforce, and we are simply turning off the dynamism and creativity that is typical of the younger, but less so of the more seasoned workers, if we force them to work to schedules best designed to suit the needs of the older folks. Think how productive you’d be if you had to be at work “on call” mostly in the afternoons. I think that is what many young, unattached young people would like, for reasons not only limited to partying and drinking, as you say, but even if they’re not into drinking, others such as most of their social life revolving around that of their (possibly drinking and partying) friends, or habit of a lack of rigid schedule (being fresh out of school), or simply lack of responsibilities such as children – aside from the purely biological reasons I mentioned above.

  • Aksivad

    Oh the drudgery of  9 to 5!   I read this in total disbelief until the author noted the age, so it all fits together now.  I honestly find the views and beliefs a common affliction in the age group, which may be why he/she assumes more people are taking note.   If they are, it’s because people believe this drivel and the people that know better are retiring.

    Why would someone need coffee to stay awake until 5:30 in the afternoon?  I know, the author is out partying or playing video games until the wee hours and the “job” and the 9-5 hours are not conducive to his/her lifestyle .  Conversely, if one goes to bed early to commitments, are in their 20′s and are still tired at 5:30 pm, my apologies and go see a doctor. . . SOON. 

    Interesting how easily it is to stereotype.  Factory workers just make widgets and don’t need or perform critical thinking.  Wow, tell that to an Electrician, or Machinist.  Yes they work in factories.  I am a white collar professional, but I do know the critical thought needed to get the work completed.  Perhaps the author meant assembly line worker?  There is much evidence that type of repetitive work requires even more breaks or people get hurt. 

    This post attempting to pass as an article, but upon examination, it is good that a tree was not sacrificed for this garbage.  Unfortunately perhaps some coal  burned for power…  There are no references to completed studies or facts to support the authors “theories”.   He/she is correct that by writing it down, people believe it.

    Bet the author would need to research when the 12 hour standard day became a “grueling” 8 hr / 40 hr work week. Little further back in the early 1900′s, children worked 12hr. 6 days a week.  Did the author consider the competition and someone replacing them that doesn’t have an issue with how the rest of planet Earth works?

    Good luck to the author trying to shape the whole world to match his/her vision.  Why not, in the author’s alternate reality it revolves around him/her anyway?

    Likely twice the age of the author and apparently I work longer, harder and didn’t need a gov. bailout of any type.  But then I moved out of my parents house during college and wasn’t raised in the era of entitlements.

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    I Think productivity in 8 hour job is not the same in every hour of job. In early hours it will be more but in the after noon it will decreases. Specially this happens with the people working in information technology kind of jobs.

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  • PDfranks

    I’m an I/O Psychologist. I’ve owned multiple businesses with varying amounts of staff — from micro (just me) to 40 person staffs. 

    What you describe is not fit for every type of person. Though I do enjoy my time at home, I see home as a ‘relaxation’ place where I can be with my family. Though I have a nice office setup in my house, I prefer to sit in our living room on my laptop and work. I feel I get more done there.

    However, I ALWAYS get more done if I am with others who are working. I am much less likely to goof off or check Facebook randomly. When I’m at work, I work. When I get tired or distracted, I get up — walk around — take a break. Then when I’m ready, I sit back down & work on my todo list. When I’m home that is rarely the case. 

    Though I am certainly for the 80/20 rule @ work & I fully believe the best creativity comes out when it is not FORCED to come out…. (but rather sometimes @4cdcfa3d1d59f1f38be62ec98056ca26:disqus 
     1am while flipping youtube videos or in the dreams you have right before you wake up…) — I have to say that working from home suits some personalities better than others; even if your paycheck is based on projects completed with an A+.

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    I am with you here. The 9 to 5 lifestyle with the long commutes was never my thing. I have mental cycles and many times during the night (2to4 am) are my most creative hours.

  • Rebecca byerline

     Exactly! I am currently writing an essay in my college composition class titled “Office Workers should request to go home”. My professor told me this is not an appropriate thesis because “what happens if they are not granted there wish; then the paper is useless”. OMG! It is already an inevitable situation. It is going to happen regardless. Furthermore, what great change was not preceded by famous persuasive literature, which called for the action before it took over . To say a thesis is not adequate because it does not bring about immediate change? I could go on about this all day.

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  • michael jones

    I have to say I’m very surprised by the idiots on here pushing for people to be paid for “productivity” not by the hr. 

    A boss paying you for work as they see fit is frankly insane and unfair.  There always seems to be a bizzare group of workers happy to throw their wages and rights down the toilet, simply out of a strong desire to brown nose and natural stupidity. Seems SLAVERY is back in fashion. 

  • Muthukumar

    what is the reason for 8 hour working time a day?

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  • dmackey2

    Heaven forbid you have to work more than 5 hours. Look at the Greeks. How’s their less than 6-hour work day working out for them?

  • dmackey2

    Heaven forbid you have to work more than 5 hours. Look at the Greeks. How’s their less than 6-hour work day working out for them?

  • dmackey2

    Heaven forbid you have to work more than 5 hours. Look at the Greeks. How’s their less than 6-hour work day working out for them?

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  • Gabt75

    “the ability of a factory worker to think analytically is irrelevant.”. What a pompous piece of shit thing to say. I hope this author rots his highfalutin ass off in cubicle hell for all eternity.

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    It’s a setup that should have been abolished years ago. Working for eight hours is no longer effective, since many people are able to complete their work and be productive within a much shorter period of time. Workdays only seem so stressful, busy, and packed because a lot of other details pop up to fill the hours.

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