Comments on: Resisting the Temptation of Authority http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:44:23 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ironman http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-67993 Ironman Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:41:18 +0000 http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/#comment-67993 I have to caution against adopting the assumption authority is inherently, or even generally bad. There aren't many people who have EVER graced this earth who could do great things WITHOUT submitting to authority. I guarantee you Michael Phelps could not have done what he did without submitting to Bob Bowman (or another coach). Ok, enough with the inductive examples... In my experience, it's not natural to submit to authority. You even conceed in the article submission is taught to us from an early age, meaning it's not natural. I don't know that I have ever met a child who wanted to comply with authority unless it pleased them because it was already in line with their personal interests (I'll go to bed, but only because my show is over and I'm sleepy). I have to caution against adopting the assumption authority is inherently, or even generally bad. There aren’t many people who have EVER graced this earth who could do great things WITHOUT submitting to authority. I guarantee you Michael Phelps could not have done what he did without submitting to Bob Bowman (or another coach). Ok, enough with the inductive examples…

In my experience, it’s not natural to submit to authority. You even conceed in the article submission is taught to us from an early age, meaning it’s not natural. I don’t know that I have ever met a child who wanted to comply with authority unless it pleased them because it was already in line with their personal interests (I’ll go to bed, but only because my show is over and I’m sleepy).

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]]> By: Katy http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-16952 Katy Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:47:40 +0000 http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/#comment-16952 Like your site and your writing; thanks for it. I'm curious how you'd respond to the thought that the anti-authoritarian voice is such a strong and prevalent one in contemporary, and especially American, culture that it often becomes, itself, a form of authority to which people submit unthinkingly? The first question we have to ask of any truth claim is, as you say, "Is it actually true?" But "Who says so?" and "What right, claim or expertise do they have to say so?" shouldn't be secondary questions. They should be approached with the same fairness and care as the pursuit of truth. As a onetime journalist, I believe this for the simple reason that some sources are trustworthy and authentic, while others aren't. Though "what is true?" and "who claims it's true?" may be separate questions, it doesn't do to overlook their relationship to each other. In short: under the graffiti slogan "Question authority," I'm one of those who would scribble, "Says who?" Like your site and your writing; thanks for it.

I’m curious how you’d respond to the thought that the anti-authoritarian voice is such a strong and prevalent one in contemporary, and especially American, culture that it often becomes, itself, a form of authority to which people submit unthinkingly?

The first question we have to ask of any truth claim is, as you say, “Is it actually true?” But “Who says so?” and “What right, claim or expertise do they have to say so?” shouldn’t be secondary questions. They should be approached with the same fairness and care as the pursuit of truth. As a onetime journalist, I believe this for the simple reason that some sources are trustworthy and authentic, while others aren’t. Though “what is true?” and “who claims it’s true?” may be separate questions, it doesn’t do to overlook their relationship to each other.

In short: under the graffiti slogan “Question authority,” I’m one of those who would scribble, “Says who?”

]]> By: Hart Matthews http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-16668 Hart Matthews Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:29:50 +0000 http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/#comment-16668 Nice piece, John Wesley. I might add that it's equally important to resist the temptation to *exercise* authority. Assuming that we have authority over our own bodies, we frequently have difficulty exercising simple self-discipline. Exercising authority over others is that much more complicated. One bone to pick: I get your point about bin Laden, but I'm not sure the actual facts back up the point. There are too many questions about September 11, 2001, to believe what the voice of authority has told us about that day. Take care, Hart Nice piece, John Wesley.

I might add that it’s equally important to resist the temptation to *exercise* authority. Assuming that we have authority over our own bodies, we frequently have difficulty exercising simple self-discipline. Exercising authority over others is that much more complicated.

One bone to pick: I get your point about bin Laden, but I’m not sure the actual facts back up the point. There are too many questions about September 11, 2001, to believe what the voice of authority has told us about that day.

Take care,
Hart

]]> By: Tommie Miller http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-16642 Tommie Miller Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:56:46 +0000 http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/#comment-16642 I deeply appreciate the time you have taken to help bring light to our motives. If we understood that many, if not all , of our actions may be due to instinct, we might have hope. I deeply appreciate the time you have taken to help bring light to our motives. If we understood that many, if not all , of our actions may be due to instinct, we might have hope.

]]> By: Eli Gottlieb http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-9732 Eli Gottlieb Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:36:43 +0000 http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/resist-the-temptation-to-submit-to-authority/#comment-9732 <p>As a reflexively anti-authoritarian individual, I think you're full of sh!t with your idea that people somehow have an innate desire to submit to authority. Most people just have a few things they want, and they submit or don't submit based on how it advances their own (or their own ingroup's) agenda.</p> As a reflexively anti-authoritarian individual, I think you’re full of sh!t with your idea that people somehow have an innate desire to submit to authority. Most people just have a few things they want, and they submit or don’t submit based on how it advances their own (or their own ingroup’s) agenda.

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