• http://joelfalconer.com Joel Falconer

    Good post, mate. You know one thing I always find funny, in a sad kind of way? There are some ancient, dying languages with fewer speakers than say, Klingon. It’ll be a pity when those are lost and all we have to show for it is that tacky marketing gimmick of a language from a television show that’s long been done.

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  • http://www.adviceforyou.org.uk/blog/ uk student

    Great post! You’ve really captured the practical aspects of deciding whether to study a foreign language. I’ve covered a lot of the more academic reasons for learning a foreign language and you’ve really nailed the practical motivations on the head. Really great article.

  • Pieter

    Personally I’ve gotten into learning japanese when my life entered a dark spot last year. All I did was listen to audio lessons you could get online (for free) on my mp3-player. Not only can I now understand some japanese, it really helped calm my mind and keep me focussed on getting back in the sun, so to speak. Not counting japanese and my native language, I speak three more languages and the minority language of my home-area and it has been usefull on countless occasions. Just try to order diner in a restaurant in Luxemburg in english and you’ll understand.

  • http://getinternationalclients.com/how-a-third-culture-kids-natural-cross-cultural-vision-can-power-your-international-business-expansion/ Cindy King

    Hi Steve,

    An interesting read. I think some people are more “open” to learning languages.

    I speak 2 foreign languages fluently and have “spoken” about half a dozen other languages at other stages in my life.

    What I notice is that most people who do speak a foreign language have very distinct views on what is best to do, etc.

    Everyone has their own individual experience…what’s mine?

    Find someone you want to get to know and want to communicate with…who does not speak your language and also wants to talk to you.

    The communication with gestures, empathy and taking a step towards the other person’s culture is an important part of “language learning”. It also takes the drudgery out of the “hard” part.

    I have met many people who can speak a foreign language “mechanically” without connecting with the people they ar communicating with.

    Is that really what it’s all about?

    That’s another article…

  • http://www.letutor.com Spanish Class

    Great Post Steve. I don’t always agree with your posts but I value your efforts and what you have to say. http://www.letutor.com

  • http://www.pickthebrain.com Peter

    I come under #3 – I have tried to learn French and Mandarin but gave up.

    I remember going to France when I was 15, and the 6 months leading up to that trip I was so motivated to learn the language. So I definitely agree with your suggestion to create an incentive.

    I also agree with another one of your points – modern technology is making it easier and less expensive to learn a foreign language. I think I will give it another go :)

  • http://heartandcraft.blogspot.com Ritergal

    I’ve learned enough of three different languages to keep myself fed and sheltered. My reason for not developing these languages (or others) to the point of fluency didn’t appear on your list: I have nobody around to speak them with. Studying on my own will only take me so far.

    With sufficient effort I could probably find people, but they do not exist in my normal sphere of activities, and lacking mutual interests that would bring us together normally, we are unlikely to have enough in common to keep a relationship going. Just meeting to speak a language isn’t enough. You need content that’s compelling to both!

    So, alas, because I’m an overachiever in what I already do and obsessively busy, I’m likely to remain a slacker in the area of foreign language development.

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    Ritergal,
    I agree that it is not necessary to try to chase down native speakers just to practice your language with them. Language exchange sites do enable a lot of people to connect and enjoy each others company but is not for everyone.Communication needs to be based on a genuine desire to share something.

    My interest in languages right now is more selfish. I am quite content to enjoy works of literature in Russian, the language I am studying now, for example, without feeling any great desire to seek out people to talk to in Russian. I am communicating with the great writers of the 19th century who are available in audio books and free in print from Gutenberg, from where I can import them into LingQ. I listen in my car, while gardening and doing the dishes, so I fill in a lot of available time and enjoy my studies. My brain just gets more and more used to Russian.

    Of course if I hear the sounds of Russian in a shopping mall or somewhere, that person may just be fair game for a Russian attack from me.

  • greg

    I am in the minority.
    I believe we do not need more than 4 languages. English, Spanish, 1 Chinese, and throw in something else.
    If we were to eliminate most of the languages, we as people of earth will have more in common, communicate better, etc… That would lead to less war, more happiness, enjoyment, etc…

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    The former members of Yugoslavia mostly spoke the same language. That did not prevent war.

    It is not up to anyone to decide how many languages “we” need. Languages, like any other cultural product, including food, religion, political institutions, philosophies, ideologies, art, music, etc, are the natural creations of human minds. They will arise, flourish, compete for space, influence each other, and evolve. They are all marvels and in a way we share in them all, to the extent that we share the world with our fellow humans, present past and future. These examples of human creativity should neither be suppressed nor artificially preserved.

  • greg

    “They will arise, flourish, compete for space, influence each other, and evolve.”

    You forgot “Die”

  • greg

    Also not sure what you mean by “Yugoslavia mostly spoke the same language.”

    The three official languages of Yugoslavia were Serbo-Croatian, Slovenian, and Macedonian. Serbo-Croatian has an eastern and a western variant
    ….
    In order of usage, Yugoslavia’s most significant minority languages included Albanian, Hungarian, Turkish, Bulgarian, Romanian, Italian, Vlach, Czechoslovak, Slovak, Ruthenian, and Gypsy.

    http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-14802.html

    So they have at least 15 languages in Yugoslavia.

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    Most of the combatants, the Croats, Serbs and Bosnians,spoke dialects or variants of the same language, i.e. had no trouble understanding each other.

  • Tom

    $1540? Would you mind fronting me that? Your list is about $1500 more than I can afford.

  • Bill Chapman

    I would like to argue the case for learning Esperanto, the planned international language. It is an easy-to-learlanguage which belongs to no one country or group of states. Take a look at http://www.esperanto.net

    Esperanto works! I’ve used it in speech and writing in a dozen countries over recent years.

    What do you think?

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    It is quite possible to do it for nothing using public libraries, especially if you own an MP3 player and a computer and have high speed internet access.

    But, to answer your question, no, I will not “front you” for your leisure activities and do not expect you to front me for mine.

  • Tom

    Oh well. I had to try. And, no, this never works!

  • Irene

    I think some people can be afraid about the price of 1.500 Dollar. But it is not nessesary because these are tools for a profi.
    A non-profi can buy a microphon/headset for 20 Euro, MP3 player for 80 Euro or less.
    You mentioned that a learner can find a lot of articles as free.
    A Learner can come to LingQ and there work as a beginner for free.
    Then, after the first step, he or she has fun and want to speak. Now comes the time for more investment for taking part on conversations but is not too expensive and all is dividable how it is fitting for each learner.

  • http://myfrenchtools.com Sara M

    Your post reflects some of my students. I am a French teacher and I hear those 5 excuses all the time!

    On the side, I am learning Russian and I do not intend to spend $1500. There is tons of free resources online! Penpals, dictionaries, language tandem (exchange), online grammar and verbs conjugaisons, cheap online private or group lessons, free tests, exercices etc etc.

    If you are really serious about learning a new language, motivation is key!
    If you can find an online mentoring group, you should join! I am part of a russian group and we meet everyweek online. It has been very helpful.
    They help you set precise objectives.

  • Ana

    I totally agree with you, Sara. The Internet is an endless source of material, there is virtually no cost at all. I wouldn’t take mp3 players, phones or internet connection as part of the cost for learning languages, because I already had them for other purposes. And I believe everyone who uses computers nowadays have most of these things too.
    But I’m envious of your russian group. I would love to have such a regular discussion group in English, but I think it’s very difficult to find 2 or 3 people with the same interests and time schedule. How did you manage that?

  • Ana

    I disagree Tom, it works! I’ve doing this for 10 months. During this time, I improved my English *a lot*, and have included French in my studies. I have no intentions nor the desire of stopping spending the last 2 hours of my night in language learning. It simply became my hobby, and this is the key for the whole thing to work.

  • Tom

    I wasn’t referring to this method. I was referring to the ploy of asking someone to pay. I left out the word ploy in my original response.

  • Ana

    Come on, Steve, you are scaring people with this $1500 “kit”… rsss…
    I spent more or less $80-$100 at LingQ the last 10 months, and only recently I went to a $39 account, but it was basically for fun and I not strictly needed at all.
    My husband has been studying some English and Spanish for free there.
    I already had the mp3 player and the headset, and I think they are wide-spread general use tools, not things that one buys just for language learning.
    Books, grammars, dictionaries, they are all just out there in the internet to be used. I never needed to pay for content.
    In summary, believe me, people, nobody needs to be as wealthy as Steve Kaufmann so to learn languages… ;)

  • Ana

    ok, sorry for the misunderstanding… anyway, this cost is highly overestimated, see my comment below on this (nr. 15). ;)

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    Ana and Sara and others,

    I only mentioned the $1,540 per YEAR since there are many people, many tens of thousands of people, who spend that amount per MONTH intensive courses. I see them doing ESL here in Vancouver.What do you think is the real cost of a university language course?

    Of course you need not spend very much. I was just trying to add up what you could spend, if you really wanted to go first class, so to speak. Three sets of ear phones, two MP3 players, etc., buying rather than renting videos and audio books and books, a tutor or coach giving you lots of personal attention. You really do not need to do that, and most of you have MP3 players and internet access.

    By the way I lost my exercize ear phones and bought a new set from Roots for $14, the best earphones yet for all purposes. I also believe the iPod shuffle at $55 is the best buy for active language learners. I mean for $70 you have can set up a language lab. And yet universities are investing $$$$$$ in sophisticated language labs. Tax-payers money at work!!

  • http://www.lingq.com Steve

    Ana,

    Many tens of thousands of people spend $1500 per MONTH for intensive language courses at schools. I see them at ESL schools here in Vancouver. What do you think a university language courses cost to put on?

    But on the Internet you do not need to spend that amount. I just put up an idea of what you could spend. but most people have an MP3 player, internet access, and do not need extra earphones etc. Lost of things are available free.

    But even if you wanted to go first class, with your own private tutor, you need not spend more than this, and you can spend a lot less. And you will probably do as well or better than at the university language class.

    After two years of part time study on my own I am reading and listening to Russian literature in the original. At many North American universities, in their Russian program, they do these in translation, even after three years of study.

  • Tom

    Perhaps you can take those things out of the equation, but there are people (like me) who don’t have an MP3 player or a mobile phone or their own computer (I’m typing this on a friend’s MacBook). Right now, a lot of that is beyond my means — even using a computer at a library is a bit of a stretch if only because I can’t get to the library during the day and when I can the computers are all in use.

  • Irene

    I laughed loudly by reading Ana’s reply (the wealthy Steve).
    But now I understand what Steve would say with his calculation.
    I think the costs are excuses.
    The most important point for learning language is the motivation how is mentioned before from Sarah, and the will to learn with a goal and last not least a little discipline.

  • http://hubpages.com/hub/learn-languages-online-and-make-money joe

    nice post, I would also point out, another possible motivation for people using web 2.0. they actually can not only get a lot of resources for free but they can even make money out of it just by teaching their native language.
    I wrote a post about this issue:

    http://hubpages.com/hub/learn-languages-online-and-make-money

    thanks

  • http://www.onsimplicity.net Sara at On Simplicity

    Ack! All my excuses are gone! I just love the idea of working my brain in a way that it hasn’t been worked in years (like you mentioned in #1). I have to imagine there are some sweet side brain benefits to learning a language beyond the actual skill.

    I know for a fact that the local library has resources for at least five different languages, so I think it’s just a matter of setting aside a certain amount of time each week and making it happen.

    Thanks for the kick in the drawers!

  • Mikorka Kalman

    Kató Lomb, famous Hungarian interpreter once said a foreign language is the only thing that is worth being learnt even a little. If you only know a little chemistry you may blow up your house, or if you only know to play the violin a little you torture your audience. But it is endeed worth knowing only 200 hundred words of a foreign language. This really sounds encouraging. :)

  • http://www.edufire.com S A M

    I understand the points you gave for some not wanting to learn a new language because I fell into a couple of those categories myself…the money and I’m not determined enough to learn a language on my own. A few months ago I started to use http://www.edufire.com and I think my feelings have changed. It’s not all on my own with this site and it’s much more affordable than other avenues I have looked into in the past.

  • Nick

    Je remercie! Tu nous offres tres bon (reasons) apprendre des langues.

    Ok, I tried.